Anonymous said: does hating life , thinking that life doesn't worth me living it and for that wanting to die , waiting for the courage to suicide , make me a nihilist ? , or , like are these things nihilists believe ? i guess there are two types of nihilists , right ? , i'm sorry just that someone called me a nihilist and i don't know , i mean what else should i believe as a nihilist ?

I’m sorry, I don’t really understand your distinction. I think it’s both - that’s what a nihilist is and that’s what a nihilist believes. You’re leapfrogging off my discussion with ajouissance, right? Cuz I do think there is an important distinction to make between your and his nihilism. In his 1887 notebooks Nietzsche distinguishes between nihilisms:

Nihilism. It is ambiguous:
A. Nihilism as a sign of increased power of the spirit: as
active nihilism.
B. Nihilism as decline and recession of the power of the
spirit: as passive nihilism.

ajouissance seems to be affirmative (or active) about his nihilism whereas you seem to be defeatist (or passive)—though you are active in that a part of you still flickers and finds meaning in the goal of suicide. Please consider this, that you believe in some sort of meaning. That’s a good thing; I’ve been where you are before (I think?) and this was my escape ladder: that, if I could find meaning in wanting to die, then why couldn’t I find meaning in something else??—like thinking and writing and talking about nihilism? lol

I don’t agree with either nihilism now, really. I definitely have moods that align with both your nihilisms but I don’t think either is the truth or how we should live our lives. I’ve inverted Nietzsche’s nihilism - I don’t think of it in purely negative terms like he does. I think everything is true instead of thinking everything is a lie or falsity. If one believes the latter I don’t understand what ground one has to stand on to make that very claim. Please talk to me off of anon if you want me to expound on any of this.

Nihilism as a normal condition.
It can be a sign of strength: the spirit may have grown so
strong that previous goals (“convictions,” articles of faith) have become incommensurate (for a faith generally expresses the constraint of conditions of existence, submission to the authority of circumstances under which one flourishes, grows, gains power). Or a sign of the lack of strength to posit for oneself, productively, a goal, a why, a faith. It reaches its maximum of relative strength as a violent force of destruction-as active nihilism.

I think you’re cool for hitting nihilism though, anon, if it means anything to you. Most people don’t feel despair like you must feel. It’s important that you find solace in this fact. You have a better bullshit-detector than most human beings that have lived. Now, apply your bullshit-detector to your bullshit-detector - this is the key. Or it’s not the key, maybe you should just kill yourself. I would think you were delusional or flawed for doing so but I might be wrong. I’ve been in mental-states where I definitely thought everyone was wrong for wanting to live. I think you’re wrong now, though, and I don’t think I’m living in a delusion for wanting to live. Consider that. Actually just talk to me off anon, we can discuss more significant things personally compared to publicly.

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ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

well if you are nihilist you don’t believe in kindness but you don’t believe in rudeness neither. you don’t believe and you don’t move. this type of nihilism takes the name of todestrieb. my nihilism is even beyond the realization of the todestrieb. there is no ideal nor not-ideal, yeah, sure, but I enjoy my existence. you can argue that my appreciation of my existence aka my life is a form of belief but trust me since I am nihilist I don’t care about thermodynamic hegelian logic, which is ideal. of course it’s ideal. of course it’s correct. but I don’t care. it’s nice for me to be kind with you

blah blah rationalizations and distractions from your real (non-nihilistic) problems; I don’t trust nihilists who are convinced they are nihilists, and I’m fine reducing your experiential state to a pure illusion. Wait - aren’t you the one saying it’s all a pure illusion anyway?

yeah my nihilism is an illusion bro, I’m a magician named GOB.

You care that you don’t care. Unless you’ve reached Nirvana and I just can’t understand.

ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

well if you are nihilist you don’t believe in kindness but you don’t believe in rudeness neither. you don’t believe and you don’t move. this type of nihilism takes the name of todestrieb. my nihilism is even beyond the realization of the todestrieb. there is no ideal nor not-ideal, yeah, sure, but I enjoy my existence. you can argue that my appreciation of my existence aka my life is a form of belief but trust me since I am nihilist I don’t care about thermodynamic hegelian logic, which is ideal. of course it’s ideal. of course it’s correct. but I don’t care. it’s nice for me to be kind with you

blah blah rationalizations and distractions from your real (non-nihilistic) problems; I don’t trust nihilists who are convinced they are nihilists, and I’m fine reducing your experiential state to a pure illusion. Wait - aren’t you the one saying it’s all a pure illusion anyway?

yeah my nihilism is an illusion bro, I’m a magician named GOB.

You care that you don’t care. Unless you’ve reached Nirvana and I just can’t understand.

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ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

well if you are nihilist you don’t believe in kindness but you don’t believe in rudeness neither. you don’t believe and you don’t move. this type of nihilism takes the name of todestrieb. my nihilism is even beyond the realization of the todestrieb. there is no ideal nor not-ideal, yeah, sure, but I enjoy my existence. you can argue that my appreciation of my existence aka my life is a form of belief but trust me since I am nihilist I don’t care about thermodynamic hegelian logic, which is ideal. of course it’s ideal. of course it’s correct. but I don’t care. it’s nice for me to be kind with you

blah blah rationalizations and distractions from your real (non-nihilistic) problems; I don’t trust nihilists who are convinced they are nihilists, and I’m fine reducing your experiential state to a pure illusion. Wait - aren’t you the one saying it’s all a pure illusion anyway?

ajouissance:

crematedadolescent:

If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

well if you are nihilist you don’t believe in kindness but you don’t believe in rudeness neither. you don’t believe and you don’t move. this type of nihilism takes the name of todestrieb. my nihilism is even beyond the realization of the todestrieb. there is no ideal nor not-ideal, yeah, sure, but I enjoy my existence. you can argue that my appreciation of my existence aka my life is a form of belief but trust me since I am nihilist I don’t care about thermodynamic hegelian logic, which is ideal. of course it’s ideal. of course it’s correct. but I don’t care. it’s nice for me to be kind with you

blah blah rationalizations and distractions from your real (non-nihilistic) problems; I don’t trust nihilists who are convinced they are nihilists, and I’m fine reducing your experiential state to a pure illusion. Wait - aren’t you the one saying it’s all a pure illusion anyway?

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If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

If you were a nihilist you wouldn’t be kind.

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Are you making fun of me for seeing nihilism everywhere or do you just see nihilism everywhere? This reminds me of Discordianism’s Law of 5s, a creed that if taken too far is nihilistic… if I’m looking at it through the nihilism-scope…

Are you making fun of me for seeing nihilism everywhere or do you just see nihilism everywhere? This reminds me of Discordianism’s Law of 5s, a creed that if taken too far is nihilistic… if I’m looking at it through the nihilism-scope…

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Me on a tree and off a tree and on a tree, respectively.

It might look like I’m scared in the last one but I think I was pretending to play the guitar.

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"The problem with teaching Nietzsche to American students … there are two opposites: in one sense it doesn’t mean a thing to them and they won’t pay attention to it; in another, certain kinds of students will go wild about it in a quite dangerous way … Nietzsche’s rhetoric—and of course this is one of the problematic aspects of Nietzsche—is such as to make anybody feel significant, ya know, and hate the world around them … easy sense of transcendence and significance and such. One of the things that was very striking as a teacher in the 60s when many students had mental breakdowns, it was a very regular aspect of life … and the number of students for whom Nietzsche was the material … practically every student who would come into my office having some kind of paranoid or schizophrenic episode would be citing Nietzsche in one way or another."

Allan Bloom

(Source: crematedadolescent)

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"Mencken, “journalist and jazz-age guru of the American intelligentsia” (Hays Steilberg), was by 1908 busy challenging what he saw as blinkered American puritanical prejudices. Mencken was heavily influenced by Nietzsche’s thought, stressing the “Dionysian” premise that “art is not a matter of morality” (Patrick Bridgwater); he also saw the Übermensch in terms of a success-seeking materialist."

Carol Diethe, Historical Dictionary of Nietzscheanism

This is like a bro ripping a bong in an attempt to become a “higher man”

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"Some students want Nietzsche in the same way that they want a hamburger; they fail to grasp — and the logic of the consumer system encourages this misapprehension — that the indigestibility, the difficulty is Nietzsche."

Mark Fisher, Capitalist Realism: Is there no alternative?

(Source: heteroglossia, via majortomstincan)

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Anonymous said: i'm not sure what encompasses the egalitarianism i'm supposed to be guilty of but if you anti-egalitarian attitude consists of discrediting 17-year old girls for being 17-year old girls it's more than reactionary. it's not about "everyone can enjoy some nietzsche. let's make a teen-version of zarathustra and bold the catchy stuff" but you literally cannot know anything about her background and relation to the content

I’m not discrediting 17 old year girls. I once knew a 15 year old who was more mature than most 40 or 80 year olds I’ve met. There’s a difference between the exception and the rule, however. I singled her out to make a point - that kids, teens are impressionable, and they’re on this website. I was simply suggesting to others (as well as to myself) that we should be more careful with what we post so as to avoid leading people down the wrong path who accept what we say on faith because we’re seemingly older and smarter than them. If you deny that there’s a contrast between maturity levels on this website I don’t know what to say to you besides that you’re in the “immature” category and have some things to learn. Plato’s Republic is a good place to start if you want to understand how what you say is going to be interpreted differently based on who does the interpreting. And if you don’t think that Nietzsche can be misread then you should read up on the ideological background of the fascist factions of World War II.

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"War (but without powder!)"

Nietzsche, notebook

The thought-war is upon us, ladies and gents. We cannot let the relativists win; do not let them internalize in you the imperative to level. Better and worse is. If they tell you better and worse isn’t, you ask them, “Aren’t you saying that ‘better and worse’ is—worse?”

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Anonymous said: what the fuck does this have to do with egalitarianism? there's nothing on the blog that indicates her interest or lack of interest for philosophy. and at what age did you get into it? did you already post about it then? but yeah you're such an edgy, radical intellectual for silencing young girls. thank you for keeping the dirty mob's hands off this holy content

Everything you say betrays your unwitting subscription to egalitarianism, and egalitarianism is like Santa Claus for “intellectuals”.

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majortomstincan:

The Void Fucks Back

This is cutting edge! Void Blow-Up Doll 2.0, the void that fucks you! Next step is the void you make love with. Real. Passionate. Mutual. Coming Christmas 2014. Surprise little Tommy with it under the tree.

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Shame on me for loosely and jokily presupposing a teleology. Parents have not a semblance of advice to transmit to their children, everyone is the same, maturity isn’t real, shoot from the hip generalizations are the devil’s work.

Shame on me for loosely and jokily presupposing a teleology. Parents have not a semblance of advice to transmit to their children, everyone is the same, maturity isn’t real, shoot from the hip generalizations are the devil’s work.

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Anonymous said: did you seriously judge someone's capacity of understanding based on them being 17 and not having a serious, ~intellectual blog?

Omg do people really believe in egalitarianism and democracy? Oops did I say that?

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